MINUTES
of a regular meeting of COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE of the Municipal
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PRESENT: |
Councillor H.
Braithwaite Councillor S. F. B.
Carson Councillor
J. Herbert Councillor
N. B. Jensen (Acting |
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STAFF: |
Municipal
Clerk, L. Hilton Confidential
Secretary, K. Green Director
of Engineering Services, D. |
Acting
PUBLIC WORKS SECTION: (Chairman –
Councillor Herbert)
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2007-164 2007-164-1 |
DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING SERVICES, May 30, 2007 LEFRANK
LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE LIMITED, May 18, 2007 Re
Boulevard Encroachment Application – |
MOVED by
Councillor Carson
Seconded
by Councillor Braithwaite, That it be recommended to Council that approval be
given for a boulevard encroachment adjacent to 3280 Uplands Road for the
purpose of installing irrigation and landscaping, subject to the new plantings
west of the Garry Oak tree (#15 on the plan from the applicant) be maintained
at a height of 450 millimetres (approximately 18 inches) or less, subject to
the owners entering into a boulevard encroachment agreement on terms set by the
Municipality.
CARRIED
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2007-165 |
Re
Boulevard Encroachment Application – |
Paul
Robertson, Victoria Golf Course Superintendent, confirmed that the Golf
Club would be responsible for the cost of the topsoil and installation of the
irrigation system on the boulevard, and that those costs were included in the
estimate provided in correspondence item no. 2007-165.
MOVED by
Seconded by
Councillor Braithwaite, That it be recommended to Council that approval be
given for a boulevard encroachment adjacent to 1110 Beach Drive for the purpose
of installing irrigation and landscaping as shown on the landscape plan
attached to correspondence item no. 2007-165, subject to the Victoria Golf Club
entering into a boulevard encroachment agreement on terms set by the
Municipality.
CARRIED
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2007-166 |
Re Request
to Erect Temporary Signs on Public Property |
MOVED by
Seconded by
Councillor Jensen, That it be recommended to Council that approval be
given to the University of Victoria to erect temporary signs on public property
for the months of July and August 2007 for the purpose of advising that the
University’s Ring Road will be partially closed and to redirect traffic from
the Cedar Hill Cross Road entrance.
CARRIED
TRAFFIC
SECTION:
(Acting Chairman – Councillor Jensen)
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2007-167 2007-167-1 2007-167-2 2007-167-3 2007-167-4 2007-167-5 2007-167-6 2007-167-7 2007-167-8 2007-167-9 2007-167-10 2007-167-11 2007-167-12 2007-167-13 2007-167-14 2007-167-15 2007-167-16 2007-167-17 2007-167-18 2007-167-19 2007-167-20 2007-167-21 2007-167-22 2007-167-23 2007-167-24 2007-167-25 2007-167-26 2007-167-27 2007-167-28 2007-167-29 2007-167-30 2007-167-31 2007-167-32 2007-167-33 2007-167-34 2007-167-35 2007-167-36 2007-167-37 2007-167-38 2007-167-39 2007-167-40 2007-167-41 2007-167-42 2007-167-43 2007-167-44 2007-167-45 2007-167-46 2007-167-47 2007-167-48 2007-167-49 |
MUNICIPAL CLERK, May 29, 2007 ALYSON HAWKSWORTH, [Undated] PAUL ROTHE, April 18, 2007 JIM AND VIVI DOERSAM, [Undated] SAFER CYCLING JOHN KELL, April 24, 2007 RICHARD GORDON, May 8, 2007 EILEEN AND BILL PANGMAN, May 8, 2007 NELSON WANG, May 11, 2007 TOM FYLES, May 13, 2007 DOROTHEA BREALEY, May 19, 2007 BETTY AND SPENCER PARKER, May 20, 2007 ROSS CHAPMAN, May 24, 2007 ALAN PENTY AND PAMELA SLYTH, May 24, 2007 DON AND DONNA FLEMING, May 24, 2007 EVAN AND YVONNE OAKLEY, May 25, 2007 ED AND NORMA SILVA-WHITE, May 28, 2007 MICHAEL WILMUT, [Undated] STUART AND SYLVIA RESTALL, May 28, 2007 DARLENE LI, May 28, 2007 OAK BAY GREEN COMMITTEE, May 29, 2007 B. MCLAUGHLIN, May 29, 2007 TOM AND JILL CROFT, May 30, 2007 GREATER DENISE SEFTON, May 31, 2007 KELLY CHOO, May 31, 2007 LIOR MALKA, May 31, 2007 BILL LEE, May 31, 2007 RICHARD WEBBER, May 31, 2007 JOHN HOLLAND, May 31, 2007 JANET SIMPSON, May 31, 2007 SIOBHAN DOYLE, May 31, 2007 CHRIS FOORD, May 31, 2007 JOAN MCINTOSH AND TOM SUTTON, June 1, 2007 MARK GABAS, June 1, 2007 JOHN SHIPLEY AND NANCY CAMPBELL, June 1, 2007 BRITT KARLSTROM AND JOHATHAN SWOVELAND, June 1, 2007 SPUD JOHN AND JANICE BLANCHET, June 1, 2007 CAPITAL BIKE & WALK, June 1, 2007 HU WALLIS,
June 1, 2007 JAMES
HOLTZ, June 1, 2007 DEAN GOARD,
June 1, 2007 TERRI
HUNTER AND DAVID GODFREY, June 1, 2007 HUGH AITKEN
AND SYLVIE ARGOUARCH, June 1, 2007 CLAIRE AND
BRIAN DOLSEN, June 1, 2007 ANDREW
CRIPPS, June 1, 2007 MIKE
STACEY, June 1, 2007 IAN GRAEME,
June 1, 2007 Re Public Consultation on Cycling Lane Design Concept – |
Acting
It was agreed at that
time that interested groups and individuals should be given an opportunity to
write letters and to attend a public meeting to provide input on the cycling
lane design concept for
A member of the
Committee drew attention to previous discussions with respect to funding for
the proposed cycling lane design concept and it was acknowledged that it would
have to be a 2008 project, should it go forward, as no funding for the capital
project is included in the current budget.
Discussion followed
regarding possible alternate sources of funding the Province’s LocalMotion
capital grant program and various other funding opportunities that may be
available. It was also suggested some
components could possibly be achieved through funds contained in the traffic
calming account.
Acting
Lesley Ewing, Safer
Cycling Oak Bay, 3041 Westdowne Road, read out from
her letter attached to the agenda (correspondence item no. 2007-167-4) noting her
comments with respect to the differences from the Municipal cycling lane design
concept for North Henderson Road and the designs submitted by Safer Cycling Oak
Bay.
Ms. Ewing drew attention
to the road widths along the
With regard to parking, Ms.
Ewing suggested the north portion of the road is wide enough for street parking
on one side and that two parking bays should be added to the south portion of
the corridor.
Regarding the subject of
sidewalk remediation, Ms. Ewing said that the issue of narrow sidewalks was not
addressed by the Municipality in the proposed design concept, noting that she
would suggest rebuilding the rolled curbs to 90 degree angles which would
reclaim .4 of a metre for an increase in the road or sidewalk. Further, she said, sidewalk expansions could
also be provided for on public property.
Ms. Ewing expressed her appreciation
for the proposed traffic island and landscape island saying they will
contribute to increased road safety particularly at the
Ms. Ewing pointed out
that the addition of cycling lanes would conclude the missing link to
facilitate the downtown to the
Following the reading of
her letter, Ms. Ewing expressed her dismay in seeing the bicycle stencils
painted on
In speaking with
Minister Ida Chong, Ms. Ewing noted that Minister Chong indicated she would be
supportive of projects that get people out of cars and would encourage
Noel
Parker-Jervis, 3549 Cardiff Place, member of the North Henderson Residents
Association (NHRA), drew attention to his letter (correspondence item no. 2007-167-16),
saying the mandate of the NHRA is to support the concerns of residents of the
area. Mr. Parker-Jervis said a survey
was distributed to approximately 600 residents with 22 responses. Mr. Parker-Jervis said that of the residents
that responded to the survey the majority opposed to cycling lanes was slight,
but that at the resident’s meeting it was clear most continue to oppose bike
lanes and support the implementation of traffic calming measures by way of
impeding open sightlines and narrowing or pinching Henderson Road at crossings
places. He also emphasized the need for
Council to address traffic speeding along
Further, said
Mr. Parker-Jervis, when municipal signs were erected notifying traffic of
upcoming paving on Henderson Road some years back, it created a traffic calming
effect, which helped to reduce speed. This,
he said, demonstrated that traffic calming measures, such as pinch points, will
have the desired effect of reducing traffic speeds.
Reference was
made to the success of the
The Director
of Engineering Services responded to questions from Committee members with respect
to previous traffic counts and data accumulated for
Concerns were
raised on what appears to be the number of vehicles traveling over the speed
limit and it was noted that the counts may be skewed by those vehicles found to
be traveling just one kilometre per hour over the speed limit.
There was
further discussion regarding traffic speeds and any past accidents involving
cyclists, and it was noted that no accidents had been reported on
Chris Rivers,
19-1742 Newton Street, said he moved to
Mr. Rivers
noted he could see that all in attendance seem to agree that the traffic
problems on
Dean Goard,
2175 Kendal Avenue, said he has lived on
With respect
to parking along
However, said
Mr. Goard, speeding is a problem and an appropriate speed limit should be
decided upon and then enforced. He
questioned the need for a school zone and the traffic light at the crosswalk
now that
Mr. Goard
drew attention to the
Responding to
questions from the Committee, the Municipal Clerk advised that a Traffic Control
Order to change the school zone on
John Luton,
22 Phillipa Place, introduced himself as the Executive Director
of the Capital Bike and Walk Society, noting he had previously submitted a letter
regarding this subject. Mr. Luton agreed
with many of the concerns and comments brought forward in the meeting, adding
he accepts that safety is not a significant issue, however, he said that incorporating
bike lanes will cost little and will increase the appeal for cycling along
Mr. Luton
said he looks forward to
He said in
addition to previously mentioned potential grant opportunities, the
Municipality could look at the Capital Regional District’s Gas Tax monies to
assist in funding the proposed project.
Mr. Luton
responded to questions from the Committee comparing
Darren Marr,
Greater Victoria Cycling Coalition, said that the Greater
Victoria Cycling Coalition’s Board of Directors is in favour of the cycling
lane design concept noting that bike lanes will increase bike use and encourage
traffic calming. Mr. Marr went on to say
that this section of
As noted in
his letter, Mr. Marr questioned why the proposed cycling lane narrows to 1.2
metres along the south section between Gibbs Road and Kendal Avenue, as it is
below the Transportation Association of Canada’s minimum standard width of 1.5
metres, which he felt should be adhered to.
In conclusion
Mr. Marr commended Council and the Engineering Department on the overall proposed
concept.
It was noted
by a member of the Committee that he understood there were no legislated
requirements for a certain cycling lane width.
Responding to questions, the Director of Engineering Services confirmed
he is aware of the standards Mr. Marr referred to, however, the region has
varying widths of cycling lanes currently in place. On
Betty Parker
3540 Henderson Road, commented that the proposed changes will affect
the residents of
Referring to
comments that very few vehicles park along
Ms. Parker
drew attention to the numerous times that speed reader boards had been set up
along Henderson Road often finding the majority of motorists are traveling over
the speed limit.
Ms. Parker
said the funds would be better sent on reconfiguring the intersection at
Responding to
a question from the Committee, Ms. Parker said she does not favour cutting back
the boulevard to create more parking.
Alan Batten,
2987 Westdowne Road, said he walks and drives this area frequently
and does not see an issue. He noted that
most commuters observe the speed limit to less than 50 kilometres per hour. With the exception of the danger of crossing
at
John Shipley,
3489 Henderson Road, agreed with the previous speaker, Mr.
Batten. Mr. Shipley said in 27 years,
the only traffic problem is speeding and he would welcome traffic calming
measures being implemented. He felt that
there is no need for cycling lanes as the parking regulations that restrict
parking on the east side in the early part of the day and the west side of the
road in the later part of the day provides a wide enough corridor for cyclists
and motorists. In conclusion, Mr.
Shipley questioned the need to spend money on parking when that is not the
issue.
Responding to
a member of the Committee asking if he agreed with the point brought up earlier
that cycling lanes calm traffic, Mr. Shipley said he did not agree.
The Director
of Engineering Services estimated that the cost to paint the cycling lanes alone
would be approximately $15,000-$18,000.
Jane Van
Hoorn, 2965 Oakdowne Road, stated she was in attendance to support the proposal
saying cycling lanes would encourage more cyclists, reduce the number of
vehicles using Henderson Road, and cause less emissions. Ms. Van Hoorn commented that from personal
experience, cycling lanes do calm traffic.
In
response to a comment that a University of Victoria report on transportation
indicating that less people are cycling to the University, Ms. Van Hoorn said
she would not be surprised if the number of cyclists is at a saturation point
but that Council should never the less go to the next level to promote cyclist’s
safety through creating safe cycling infrastructure as proposed.
Evan
Oakley, 3484 Henderson Road,
stated that he has been a resident in the area for 40 years and during that
time he has observed many changes including repaving of Henderson Road, which seems
to have increased the number of speeding motorists. He added however,
that he has never witnessed an accident involving a cyclist along the
Mr.
Oakley suggested that an increase in police presence, frequent use of the speed
reader board and the implementation of traffic calming measures would have a
profound result on speeding vehicles and cyclists.
With
respect to the topic of parking, Mr. Oakley felt the parking regulations in
place work fine leaving evening and weekend parking unrestricted for residents
and visitors along the north portion of
Mr.
Oakley agreed with previous comments made that the school speed zone adjacent
to the former
Don
Bailey, 3034 Henderson Road,
remarked that the
Mr.
Bailey said he did not understand the division of the attendees at the meeting,
saying that adding low cost cycling lanes with the pedestrian islands would be
a good start on modifying the traffic trend along the
Ed
Silva-White, 3393 Henderson Road, stated that non-residents are unaware of residents’ road habits and
use of
Members
of the Committee discussed the possibility of reconfiguring the
Paul Rothe, 206-1270
Beach Drive, said that he has lived in Oak Bay all his life and that as
a cyclist he has always felt comfortable traveling this section of Henderson
Road. Mr. Roth drew attention to the
section of
Arnold Stewart, 3360
Gibbs,
commented that he did not see much of a problem with
Mr. Stewart also
mentioned that the pedestrian crossing light and school speed limit zone is
unnecessary at the former
Regarding funding, Mr.
Stewart said he was curious about the source of funding that might be used, and
hoped it was not a case of “funding looking for a project”.
Following the public
participation, there was discussion amongst the members of the Committee
regarding the proposal. The view was
expressed that a decision on the proposal should be deferred until a greater
number of Committee members were in attendance to express their views, and
also, that further information should be obtained from staff.
MOVED by
Seconded by
Councillor Herbert, That staff be directed to provide additional
information with respect to possible changes to the Lansdowne/Foul Bay Road
intersection and the Henderson/Foul Bay Road yield to the Committee of the
Whole at its July 16, 2007 meeting, and that a breakdown of the cost of
individual components of the proposed cycling lane concept plan be brought
forward again for review.
CARRIED
MOVED by
Seconded by
Councillor Braithwaite, That correspondence items no. 2007-167 to 2007-167-49
be received.
CARRIED
Acting
Mayor Jensen thanked everyone for coming out and attending the meeting.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOVED by
Councillor Herbert
Seconded by
Councillor Braithwaite, That the meeting of Committee of the Whole be
adjourned.
CARRIED
The meeting adjourned at
9:25 p.m.
Certified Correct:
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